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Picked up this yesterday, came with no attachments, no 3 point, and not running, seems to have no compression.

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Tractor is mostly complete and not beat up, one tie rod is broken, rear tires cracked bad, one flat replaced it with a spare so I can move it around, front tires have been replaced, still have nibs and are also age cracked.

Automotive tire Vehicle Wheel Bumper Motor vehicle Tire Wheel Automotive tire Snow Synthetic rubber Wood Brick Gas Building material Metal

Has a resistor in the head light circuit. ???

Electrical wiring Gas Auto part Cable Wire

Under the seat.

Automotive lighting Motor vehicle Fixture Automotive exterior Red

Under the hood

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The engine has the original muffler on it and the exhaust fitting that comes out of the block.

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Also this is a 13 fin block.

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However the oil dip stick does not look good, there is oil in the motor, can't see any water on the stick but. ???

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Also the hydro control has been shimmed and it moves too freely, will never hold it's position.

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Not sure what I'm going to do with this one, in many ways it is better than my other MF16 even though it doesn't run, it is more original under the hood with shields, muffler and clutch. There is minimal play in the steering shaft that goes through the frame, much less than the other 14/16 tractors I've had. The key switch looks to be original and the up/down lift control feels good it holds in the float position, none of the other ones I have do that.

I don't think this tractor has had a lot of use just sat around.

What gets me is why the Hydro control lever is in such poor shape compared to the other parts that I find wear out.???

For sure now I can make one really good original one from both.
 

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RED Wild Hogs, Horses & Deeres
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Doug, This one looks great. I would use it and put the parts on it from the ones you have.

Or you could sell it to me, I would be happy to take it off your hands so you don't have to solve this issue. :smilewink:
 

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I like the looks of those. Great find, hope you get some things figured out with it. Could be a stuck valve on the loss of compression.
 
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I like the looks of those. Great find, hope you get some things figured out with it. Could be a stuck valve on the loss of compression.
Kenny, You could be right, a lot of these Kohlers have stuck exhaust valves from sitting when I pick them up.
 

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That would explain lack of compression. Of, course, a broken rod will do that too!
 

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Doug, You can pull the plug and see if the piston is moving up and down. If so, I would pull the head and see if you have a valve stuck. You might be able to get her to run quickly. If the head gasket does come apart when you pull the head, I reuse them til I can get a new one, never had any issues re torquing the heads with an old gasket.
 
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Doug, Great find on the 16! The float on your other tractors is adjustable I think. Been awhile but I believe its a allen screw with a jamb nut. You may want to remove the screw and give it a squirt of penetrating oil and run her in a little more. Work the lever back and forth a few times while turning the screw in slowly. there is a spring and a detent ball behind the screw. The detent ball holds on a groove in the shaft. Hope this helps, Shawn
 
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I removed the spark plug and you can see the exhaust valve, put some oil in cranked it over by hand, the valve doesn't move, stuck open. Hooked up booster cables to the starter direct, cranking the engine over, air goes in and out of the spark plug hole so the piston is moving up and down.

I took a flat punch put it through the spark plug hole on top of the valve, a couple of taps with a rubber hammer and down it went. Cranked the engine and the the valve came up and stayed there, stuck open again.

I put the punch on top of the valve again, pushed it went down. Cranked the engine over while pushing down on the valve with the punch until it would go up and down freely.

Put the spark plug back in and now it has compression.

So you were right, stuck valve. Thanks.
 

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So you were right, stuck valve. Thanks.
Well YAY! Great news. Now why don't cha see about sending some of those masseys down this way!

O wait, I had to pass on a 16xx massey a few weeks ago, never mind.
 
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Try to spray it with penetrating fluid while it's open and then work it some more. That will remove the carbon and rust on he valve.

I bet it will run now. :thumbs:
 

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I think this ones a keeper, I originally had other plans for it but after taking a good look at it today I changed my mind and I'm going to fix it up. I stripped a MF14 a few months ago so there should be enough parts to get both the 16s I have in good working order.

For now there is no space in the garage for it so it goes outside covered up in the waiting area with the others.

Got stop buying these garden tractors, but this one was too good of a deal to pass on.
 

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That's a pretty solid looking 16 Doug. I had an MF8 with no compression. Same problem. Sprayed it with penetrating fluid and the valve loosened up and I had compression. Cleaned the carb and off it went. A bit smokey at first but it started and ran OK after that.
 

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Nice find Doug, glad you have another in the stable.

I thought you were going to tell us you had a bad engine and were going to make it an ET16 :D
This was suppose to become ET3
 

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Im jealous. Im starting to see a few outside of ny red heard of stallions that I like.... but I dont know if they will get along.

Sent from my 416-8

 

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Good score Doug, and great news on the exhaust valve.

I really don't think it should be just rammed out into a snowbank, and a tarp

thrown over it. I've got room in the one shed up here. :smilewink:

Heck, I might even wrench it a bit.
 
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