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Does the Waterloo model 30 actually exist? That is the question that is keeping me up at night lately. I own a 15, a 20 & a 40. There is a rumour / myth that there was also a model 30, but I can't find even a photo of a confirmed model 30. Does anyone here own one? Does anyone have a flyer or advertisement showing one? Help me sleep tonight!
 

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That just adds fuel to the fire. The fellow in the first link says his tractor was built in 1951, but Waterloo introduced the 40 in 1949. Thats when Wisconsin dropped the AB (3 hp) and introduced the ABN (4 hp). The 30 line, if it existed, would have died in 1949.

The second link is for Supremacy tractors. The ad has been mislabeled sometime in history and it has become part of the folklore around the 30.

I'm still hoping someone has a picture.
 

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The original poster on Yesterday's tractor claimed he found an engine with Waterloo 30 on the gas tank but no picture so it obviously did exist. Wasn't Supremacy just the name that Simpsons sold the Waterloo under? The 3 HP one there has a Briggs engine that would be early 50's. Probably a model 9.
 

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I agree that he says he found an engine that said "Waterloo 30" on it, but how often do we see a logo that is faded, damaged, etc & and try to guess at what it actually says?

If you look at the blow ups of that ad, you can see that they are all flat-bar handles. Waterloos have round handles. Also, the drive engaging lever on the 3 & 4.5 hp models are on the wrong side. The 2 hp tractor does not have the X brace between the handlebars.

Model 15 30 45.jpg Model 15 No2.jpg Model 30 No2.jpg Model 45 No3.jpg
 

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Again, it adds to the myth, but that is not a Waterloo tractor. If you look at the middle photo, the one that should be the 30, it has no X brace, the drive engagement handle is on the wrong side, and the front of the frame below the engine is open, like a Simplicity.

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It looks more like a Montgomery Ward.

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Don't get me wrong, I really do appreciate the help.
 

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could you give us some pictures of a waterloo so we could have a reference
 

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Sure. Some of these have the wrong engines, but the frame is what is important.

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Amazing brochure. Certainly looks a lot like a Simplicity tractor mounted on 16" wheels. The attachment also seem to be very similar to what Simp made for models and some of the Wards units. That picture of the reel mower and sulky make you want to get right out and buy one. I also notice the waterloo boy tractor looks exactly like a peppy-pal, that I believe Shaw made. Be interesting to know if there was a joint factory connection or if someone was just copying the other. I think there was a lot of guy jumping around from factory to factory back. Even the Pond brothers worked for Shaw, long before there were Wheel Horses and Speedx tractors.

Look forwards to you being able to complete a whole line of the power units, with some attachments. Should make for an awesome display.
 

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Jeff, The Waterloo Boy is like the Planet Jr Tuffy, not the Shaw Peppy-Pal. Some pictures show cross bracing in the handles and others are shown with no cross bracing even though they appear to be the same model. As close as these are to the Simplicity line I wouldn't be surprised if some of the parts are the same. Simplicity parts would be a lot easier to find than Waterloo stuff.
 

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Can you tell the model year for the Tuffy? Might help us identify the year Waterloo started selling them and introduced the reverse feature on the 40.
 

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Hi guys,I'm new to this forum. I just picked up a Waterloo 30. Not original motor.i have a pic of the tractor and serial and model number. Just not sure how to upload the pic. Thanks for the add to the forum, Reeder
 

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Hi, Reeder. Welcome to the site. With a SN in the high 600s, I would expect your was made in either 49 or 50. I have 2 model 30s. If you want an engine, I know where one is sitting on a shelf. If I can help with any other details or repair info, feel free to make a posting.
 

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Hi all, I am new here and new to walk behinds. I recently acquired a Waterloo 30, serial 653, with moldboard plow, in running condition. The engine is a Wisconsin AB. I need a fuel tank cap and the throttle cable is seized with rust but otherwise ok. Can anyone point me to a source for a fuel tank cap? Thanks
 
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