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I have leads on 3 little Massey tractors. I desperately want a loader for moving small square bales feed bags cleaning goat pens making "silage" piles (grass and garden refuse left to compost) plowing snow and lifting stuff I don't want to... Is the frame and front end up to this on the 12s? What's the max weight I would want to put on it?

for now the loader will be winch operated. Eventually I'll upgrade to hydraulics...
 

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Not really heavy enough built for that. But they will do it. I broke the centre bolt in the axle on mine a few years ago. And was not carrying anything at the time. Just wore out. But this tractor also carried a snowthrower on the front for years before I got the tractor. Years of weight and metal fatigue, lead to the bolt breaking, the axle bent under the tractor, which bent the 1/4 plate that the bolt goes thru to hold the axle in. But I have used my loader a lot, it was only built for a parade piece, but I had to use it. It will only lift about 50 lbs or so. If you built yours different, with different leverages, it would lift more. My winch is a Canadian tire cheapie, only 1500 lbs pull. A better winch would help a lot. If going to use a winch, make sure you have a better than normal rated battery, and your charging system is working good. If I use mine a lot, say moving a pile of snow, I watch the amp gauge and let it charge back up for a few minutes every 15 minutes or so. I believe that discharging and then charging a battery quickly is hard on it, so that's why you need a good battery. Just my opinion.

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I want to say member Tudor had a loader on an MF 12, but I maybe mistaken.

If going to use a winch, make sure you have a better than normal rated battery, and your charging system is working good. If I use mine a lot, say moving a pile of snow, I watch the amp gauge and let it charge back up for a few minutes every 15 minutes or so. I believe that discharging and then charging a battery quickly is hard on it, so that's why you need a good battery. Just my opinion.

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Yep, the winch on my dump bucket really works the charging system. I have a problem with burning up my regulators during heavy winch usage.
 

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One of my good neighbors has an MF12 with a Johnson loader. He moves reasonable loads and hasn't had any issues with axle spindles or anything else. When I first built my loader, I'm sure I lifted too much as I kept going through wheel bearings, and broke a spindle twice.
 

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Ok. The general opinion (as I see it) seems to be to take it easy on the tractor if you do this.

Would putting an alternator from something such as a mini van help with the power supply issues? I have a pair of scrap mini vans at my disposal. I'm not much of an electrician (still in school. But I can use auto shop for projects:)) so your guys experience is a big help...
 

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Yes, an automotive alternator would help a LOT. They make them pretty small. I have a couple on my custom builds. But a large one is fine too, just takes more space to mount.
 

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Those type loader remind me of the old hay booster bucks used back in the late 30's and early 40's. Look like real light weight stuff and and top heavy. If they won't comfortably handle over 100 lbs why bother?
 

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Actually what about having electric actuators? I'm sure I can find them up here. I'll see if I can't get a loader from my grandpas friend... Just need to talk to him. Then it will be a bit more serious.

I'm thinking something with 500 pound max between both of the actuators...
 

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Yah... Think a power steering pump out of a mini van is a good idea? Can steal one of those without issues... Heck of I'm going to go hydraulic on this anyone think a grapple is possible?
 
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