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recently bought a 1975 mf 14 with cutting deck and snow blade for $250 bucks.a decent price from what i have read ,original owner says its the 4th motor in this tractor and fairly fresh.pulled and kleened carb,emery clothed and set points and she fired and ran great,but with a tick.is not valves,i was all over them like hair on a bear. comp release not working so i suspect noise is from that.motor manual has jack all for info Tire Wheel Vehicle Plant Automotive tire
 

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Welcome, glad you found us. Can't help with your questions, but I'm sure one of the MF'rs will be along soon.
 
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:wave: rexknightly Welcome to GTTalk! We're glad to have you! I'm not the Massey guy you were looking for, but I'm sure they'll be along shortly. I think that you made a pretty good deal on that MF14!
 
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KennyP said:
MF'rs will be along soon.
Who you calling that Kenny????? :bigrofl:
It could well be the ACR causing the tick, but very hard to diagnose on the net. I don't have a pic of a camshaft & none out of engine either.
 

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thanks to all for the welcomes. running gear is surprisingly solid,considering it was used for kids toy after retiring fromwork duty.body is beat to crap though.ill be able to smooth that out. left footrest was to rotted near the frame so i welded a peice of 1 inch angle in place, worked perfect for a first time effort. Wheel Tire Automotive tire Tread Bumper 6 holes in opposite side and some heavy pitting on frame were migged and then bondoed. and to freak out the hardcore MF guys everythins siver is going midnite grey metallic and all red will be dark cobalt blue.should have some pop,we will see i guess.
 

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Who you calling that Kenny????? :bigrofl:
All the Massey Fergusoners. :bigrofl::bigrofl::bigrofl::bigrofl:
 

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Do you have the Kohler service manual. I have a K321 in my 314 but I've never been into the crankcase so I can't help on the compression release. The manual has a good description of assembly/repair/disassembly. It might help with the diagnosis.
 

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I only have the massey manuals and they are not too bad except for that 1 part of the motor. they barely mention it .I just might have to go OLD SCHOOL and hit the library.thanks for the advice JD.I really didnt want to pull it apart and disturb the set of the rings, i take the plug wire off and rotate the crank by hand up to the comp stroke , when i hold the piston as hard as i can against the pressure and two minutes later the crank hasnt moved a hair. never had a motor hold the pressure that well. I just hate to lose that good of a breakin on the motor
 

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When I have to get into an engine that I know has good rings, I simply pull the piston out slowly till rings just clear the cylinder. I then stop & take a scribe & place a single mark on the piston where the top ring end gap is, then 2 marks for where the 2nd ring gap is, & 3 where the oil ring gap is. When re=installing, I just align the ring gaps to the marks on the piston & never have had a problem. If the thin rail/expander type oil ring, I scribe small circles where the gaps are....big circle for top rail, smaller circle for the bottom rail.
 

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Daniel your knowledge and experience with engines is quite amazing. Thanks for sharing your tips like this one.
 

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I bow in humble thanks. that was exactly what i needed. now i can strip that puppy with the confidance that i almost sorta kinda justabout know what the heck i will be looking for. I thought i had the kohler manual but it must have been the MF provided minimal version. It sure didnt have that info or pics. THANKS AGAIN BG.
 

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Guys, that manual and the service manuals are in the engine section of our manual downloads. Check them out. Top of Forum Page, Manuals.
 
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update on motor tick. took the motor out today , popped off the oil pan and discovered my original suspicion was correct. The actuation spring was the problem.It wasnt broken,it was gone. not even any pieces in the bottom of the pan. i was not expecting that. Previous owner must have cleaned out the remains but didnt replace the spring. my original post stated i pushed actuation spring and it moved about 1/2 inch. I was wrong , It was the tip of the small flyweight . nobody could have helped when i am giving incorrect info rite from the start. The noise was louder than a valve tick but way less than any piston pin,con rod,bottom end knock i have ever heard plus it was only loud at idle and vanished by about 2000 rpm. I guess at idle the flyweight could flop up and down causing the noise but pin themselves at their outer travel limit with increased rpm. the rest of the internals look perfect. I will look closer to make sure spring didnt jam itself out of veiw only to create havoc down the road. Thanks again to all who responded ,In particular Billygoat for pointing to the correct manual. And on a side note OMG olcowhand 6000 and whatever posts, How do you deal with keyboard cramp and computer seat rroids.... Im just sayin.
 

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Rex, You're entirely welcome. I'm glad to hear that it was "just a spring". Are those replaceable, or do you have to get another cam?
 
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