[jimmy G]

There is quite some to say on both ends of these tractors, and i know there's enough Wizards on this channel to keep me from plowing off into the bushes to far(please don't hesitate, i have enough corrections still in the shed lol),
Quick-Hitch, there are three receivers that run Simplicitys hitch, pic (1,2)Simplicity(comes out in 1941 on the model A(culti-cutter/mower),1943 model B), (3,4)Midland(starts in 1949), (5,6)Waterbury(1951and 52), the hitch is under Simplicitys control by way of Forrest Donald holder of the patent(7,8)and engineer for Simplicity, what i find of interest here on a side note is Simplicity is flaunting this patent by putting it on the model B(9) post war and possibly as early as mid/late 1945, Ward's lost control over the Quick-Hitch through bad decision making in 1939 and would see this patent behing presented front and center as a slap in the face and probably just another reason for going Midland in 1949.

 

[tater1337]

I have some questions for the experts too

On my M-1 I have this hitch(receiver?), and also a compatible on one my midland chore-trac

the chore trac has a retractable hook to lock in the hitch from accidentally coming off while in reverse

I'd like to know if there are some documented dimensions for this and also for the (sleeve?) hitch in the rear also. I hear there is some variants in dimensions for that one.


to add to the other conversation I made, did this patent cause any of the issues with the growth then downfall of walk behind tractors?

 

[jimmy G]

did this patent cause any of the issues with the growth then downfall of walk behind tractors?

Yes on growth no on downfall

 

[jimmy G]

Ward's gets the Quick-Hitch back in its stable in the fall of 1951 pic(1), Waterloo will never be allowed the the Quick-Hitch, Simplicity has no problem selling tractors to the competition but will not give up it's edge over the competition doing so, same with implements and attachments, Simplicity will furnish Waterloo all things Ward's less the Quick-Hitch, in 1953 Simplicity will up grade Waterbury to the L/M platform and the X1 platform used for the 1947/48 Plow-Trac and Waterbury model's F and H will be given to Waterloo and becomes the model 45 less the Quick-Hitch as seen in pic's 2,3,4 and 5, it should be noted that with very little effort the Waterloo early 1948 model 30, 1953 and up model 45 and all model 15 and 20's could run Simplicity's Quick-Hitch with mounts off a like Ward's or Simplicity tractor or simply modifying existing mounts

 

[jimmy G]

Rear Hitch, i can track the rear hitch and it's progression through it's use of the the Ward's/ Simplicity plow, any make tractor with this rear hitch will run all things Ward's up to 1954, only the early Simplicity tractors carry this hitch as Simplicity will come out with a new hitch in 1948, pic (1) Ward's, first with this hitch in 1937(1939-41 tractor shown),(2) BMB, 1938 and up(later model Culti-Mate shown), (3,4) Simplicity, late 1939 to 1947, (5) 1947-48 Ward's/Waterbury Plow-Trac, (6) Waterloo, 1948 and up(1953 model 45 shown), (7)Waterbury, 1949-52(1951-52 model shown), (8) Midland, 1949-54, (9) Supremacy, 1950-52, with the exception of the 2hp Culti-Mate and 2hp Plow-trac(10, and next post) this hitch is found only on 3hp and up tractors

 

[jimmy G]

2hp Plow-trac for previous post

 

[tater1337]

ok, this gets eve more confusing when I try to cross check some of this stuff

I have been digging thru the files in main groups.io Group where they have scans of a lot of catalogs and operating manuals

I don't see any quick hitches before the patent on 1941 so I am not sure of wards claim
1945 hoe-trac shows the "wards patented instant hitch"
1947 simplicity ad copy lists "patented" quick hitch
I see in 1949 the XXX-trac from midland that they have a "easy on" front hits looks different but compatible with simplicity's patented quick hitch

anyone have any data from BMB before 1938?

I also notice that Simplicity always seemed to use model X for their tractors, but wards uses the -trac name , amking me think the -trac tractors were not simplicity.

other evidence, the 1940 catalog says assembled from stock in baltimore or albany
but simplicity was in port washington wi


honestly, all I wanted was a timeline of various models and types, how they related to WW2 and other things affecting industry> I was also going to see how close cleopatra was to walk-behind tractor compares to the pyramids and other silly references

one of these days I'd also like to see how this all tied into replacing the horse, and where steam traction engines realted to this, and thw new upstart gasoline larger tractors fit in to (like the farmall C or earlier variants)

 

[tater1337]

oh, I am working on a google docs, but it is too much of a mess to share rigth now

 

[jimmy G]

I also notice that Simplicity always seemed to use model X for their tractors, but wards uses the -trac name , amking me think the -trac tractors were not simplicity.

There is no model X, it is a platform designation i gave to Simplicity's side line of tractors(had to call them something), the X platform will carry model designations, [i.e.] X1 = models 30,45,3hp. Plow-Trac,F and H, Ward's name's it's tractors __-Trac no matter who the supplier is, Simplicity itself will not badge the X platforms

 

[jimmy G]

DB and Simplicity, wasn't sure where i was going to put this but it fits good with Simplicity's flaunting of the Quick-Hitch patent and yet another possible reason why Ward's goes Midland in 1949, and it is a hitchy thingy too lol, that is Simplicity's new mower on these early 5751's, and would explain that goofy jackshaft, not to mention the possible extent of compatibility with a little tweaking, there is nothing about this Simplicity/Sears connection out there anywhere i can find so this is probably the first light this connection has seen, i didn't look no farther into this past the mower and would not be surprised if this is just stop-gap for DB, I'm in enough rabbit holes so I'll leave this one for someone with more DB's than me😁

 

[tater1337]

There is no model X, it is a platform designation i gave to Simplicity's side line of tractors(had to call them something), the X platform will carry model designations, [i.e.] X1 = models 30,45,3hp. Plow-Trac,F and H, Ward's name's it's tractors __-Trac no matter who the supplier is, Simplicity itself will not badge the X platforms

no, I was using "model X" as in simplicity tended to use "model" followed by a letter

I am also noticing that the parts list of the___-trac look a little"off" from sinmplicity lists. I cannot tell if it is just yearly variations or if I suspect that there is more separation from simplicity and wards than expected


like I said,my research is a bit messy, and I am just trying to get things straitght while I get the big picture set up

note: still trying to figure out WHY they used a 4" pipe for a rear hitch, when most other tractors I see just used a 3/4 palte with a hole

 

[twowheeler63]

With just a plate, it'd be difficult to lift the rear implements out of the ground.